Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada
Apex United
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Posted - 2011.08.23 14:14:00 -
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Honestly, if you don't have t2 guns, fly a ship that uses mediums. Whether that is a harbinger, a legion, or any of the assorted other ships there, large guns without T2 skills is fail. Yes, I know, you said you didn't want to hear it. Sucks to be you.
Now as to why they are fail. You are using battleships that fail to put out 600dps without their drones (and drones are rarely used in incursions because they do get popped rather quickly), so you are suffering with low skilled battleship tracking, and you are not using multiple webs. This means that you aren't going to be able to apply your DPS at all on frigates, barely apply it on cruisers, and do less dps than some of the high skilled pilots in their harbingers/legions on battleships. Then there is your idiocy about target painters. A target painter has a 10 second cycle time - this when if your fleet is primarying things they shouldn't be lasting more than a combined volley or two. And it still gives less bonus than another web. Lastly, training up those T2 large guns takes months - as in 2 minimum. And you get t2 medium on the way. So you can have your t2 medium guns sooner, and be a greater asset to your fleet sooner than you can in that battleship.
As far as low skilled fits go, here's one that would work out just fine.
[Harbinger, Incursion Armor]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
[empty high slot]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Yes, it does less dps than your battleships. But, it can actually apply the DPS unlike your battleship. And don't kid yourself - until you get t2 guns you aren't going to be flying with the "Skeet Fleet's" that finish OTA's in 3 minutes, which is the only area that battleships beat cruisers/battlecruisers in. Once you get T2 guns, then you can switch out the pulse lasers for t2, allowing you to use scorch and do high damage to cruisers (and medium t2 isn't that far off, less than a weeks training after you get medium energy turret 5).
Of course, because I insulted you, you are going to call me an idiot and ignore me, because I'm not telling you what you want to hear. But its not my problem that you came to the forum and asked advice after you had already made up your mind.
-Arazel
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